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		<title>Comment on The Glasgow Years Issues 1-4 by Edwyn Collins</title>
		<link>http://rippedandtorn.co.uk/background/the-glasgow-years-issues-1-4/#comment-1843</link>
		<dc:creator>Edwyn Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 18:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Tony. I was stupid, 17 year old!! Sorry-Edwyn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Tony. I was stupid, 17 year old!! Sorry-Edwyn</p>
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		<title>Comment on Were Pink Floyd punk? by Patrick</title>
		<link>http://rippedandtorn.co.uk/when-the-going-gets-weird/were-pink-floyd-punk/#comment-1752</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 04:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lyrically, and, perhaps to lesser degree, musically, Floyd was somewhat dark, cynical, and nihilistic; they did not reflect any of the &#039;party and get laid&#039; ethos evinced by other &#039;70s bands like Zepplin or Aerosmith. In this sense you might say hey were punk, although I would argue that darkness, cynicism, and nihilism are part and parcel of the folk traditions that spawned rock and roll. One should also consider how their generally downtempo, barbituated aesthetic and elaborate stage sets comport themselves with whatever it means to be &quot;punk.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lyrically, and, perhaps to lesser degree, musically, Floyd was somewhat dark, cynical, and nihilistic; they did not reflect any of the &#8216;party and get laid&#8217; ethos evinced by other &#8217;70s bands like Zepplin or Aerosmith. In this sense you might say hey were punk, although I would argue that darkness, cynicism, and nihilism are part and parcel of the folk traditions that spawned rock and roll. One should also consider how their generally downtempo, barbituated aesthetic and elaborate stage sets comport themselves with whatever it means to be &#8220;punk.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Were Pink Floyd punk? by AL</title>
		<link>http://rippedandtorn.co.uk/when-the-going-gets-weird/were-pink-floyd-punk/#comment-1658</link>
		<dc:creator>AL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 11:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just found some pics of the Pistols  wearing the &#039;I hate Pink Floyd&#039; t-shirt.
http://www.feelnumb.com/2011/07/05/the-sex-pistols-shared-the-famous-i-hate-pink-floyd-shirt/

Which leads on to a Situationist [or Letterist to be pedantic] style detournement of the original question - which gives:

 &quot;Were the Sex Pistols punk?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just found some pics of the Pistols  wearing the &#8216;I hate Pink Floyd&#8217; t-shirt.<br />
<a href="http://www.feelnumb.com/2011/07/05/the-sex-pistols-shared-the-famous-i-hate-pink-floyd-shirt/" rel="nofollow">http://www.feelnumb.com/2011/07/05/the-sex-pistols-shared-the-famous-i-hate-pink-floyd-shirt/</a></p>
<p>Which leads on to a Situationist [or Letterist to be pedantic] style detournement of the original question &#8211; which gives:</p>
<p> &#8220;Were the Sex Pistols punk?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Were Pink Floyd punk? by Jules</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 06:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Were Pink Floyd punk? by Sike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 00:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vegetable Man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7e1RUXUx7o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vegetable Man</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7e1RUXUx7o" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7e1RUXUx7o</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Malcolm McLaren &#8211; his life, authenticity vs karaoke culture by Slyme68</title>
		<link>http://rippedandtorn.co.uk/punk-rock-videos/malcolm-mclaren-his-life-authenticity-vs-karaoke-culture/#comment-1616</link>
		<dc:creator>Slyme68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 15:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U

Further good stuff on educational sausage machine from the RSA</description>
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<p>Further good stuff on educational sausage machine from the RSA</p>
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		<title>Comment on John Robb talk on Punk Rock and DIY Creativity by Brian Rowland</title>
		<link>http://rippedandtorn.co.uk/punk-rock-videos/john-robb-talk-on-punk-rock-and-diy-creativity/#comment-1611</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Rowland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 05:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent talk! and absolutely loved the bit about guitar tuning. Very poignant and reminds me why most of the time I am doing the wrong thing teaching or most other &#039;jobs&#039;. I always think I am gonna start creating my own stuff. I have tons of stuff written down on bits of paper over the years, stuffed in a box. Note to self: Gerron wi it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent talk! and absolutely loved the bit about guitar tuning. Very poignant and reminds me why most of the time I am doing the wrong thing teaching or most other &#8216;jobs&#8217;. I always think I am gonna start creating my own stuff. I have tons of stuff written down on bits of paper over the years, stuffed in a box. Note to self: Gerron wi it!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Slits &#8211; Man Next Door &#8211; Berlin 1981 by dan i</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan i</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 10:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They rock! Is that Neneh Cherry on grooving and boing-diddly duties?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They rock! Is that Neneh Cherry on grooving and boing-diddly duties?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Desert Island Discs &#8211; Jeremy Gluck by JSG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gen X are a great lifelong love affair. Real power pop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gen X are a great lifelong love affair. Real power pop.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Desert Island Discs &#8211; Jeremy Gluck by Tony D</title>
		<link>http://rippedandtorn.co.uk/punk-rock-desert-island-discs/desert-island-discs-jeremy-gluck/#comment-1568</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic reading Jeremy. You&#039;ve especially re-ignited my admiration for Complete Control by The Clash. Just as they were becoming uncool they, as you say, got it right: it&#039;s sounds better now than it did then. The only problem for me is they never connected emotionally in the same way the Pistols did. 

In the same vein Generation X&#039;s songs have stood the test of time - &#039;Ready Steady Go&#039; especially is worth a re-listen/reassessment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic reading Jeremy. You&#8217;ve especially re-ignited my admiration for Complete Control by The Clash. Just as they were becoming uncool they, as you say, got it right: it&#8217;s sounds better now than it did then. The only problem for me is they never connected emotionally in the same way the Pistols did. </p>
<p>In the same vein Generation X&#8217;s songs have stood the test of time &#8211; &#8216;Ready Steady Go&#8217; especially is worth a re-listen/reassessment.</p>
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